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There's so much more I want to say and many, many thanx to so many who helped us all make thru a bit of a 'trying' weekend dealing with Mother Nature. But for now, I'll stay with just this question about dates. I chose the first weekend in May as it doesn't conflict with many other events and festivals. But we've had to endure rain twice now so one or possibly 2 weekends later seems to be a better choice. I've asked this before but would like everyone's feedback about preferences and possible conflicting dates of other 'happenings'.
Also, we've been considering making check in Wednesday so we can have a full day of workshops Thursday.
2010 weekend choices are;
May 5 thru 9
May 12 thru 16
Also, we've been considering making check in Wednesday so we can have a full day of workshops Thursday.
2010 weekend choices are;
May 5 thru 9
May 12 thru 16
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 3:48 AMI think the weekend of the 7th would conflict with Whole Earth Festival in Davis. That is usually the second weekend of May. Silence, correct me if I'm wrong. -
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Sun, May 10, 2009 - 10:11 PMDyamni,
That is correct, WEF is typically the 2nd weekend in May. (I'd probably pick firedrums over it, if it came down to it). I know next weekend (the third in may) is tribalfest up north (a bellydance workshop/gathering type event) and a few other things. I'm not sure any weekends are ever going to be free of anything.
I agree that the rain would have been nice to skip. Reminded me of that one at RWB...
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 4:56 AMAs you know, i schedule the Expo the weekend before FD and we've been doing this for several years now. considering i offer travel stipends ($300 2 years ago, $1250 last year & $1000 this year to out of town folks), it's great to have the two weekends close together -- for everyone's benefit. the expo coincides with NDW which is the last week of april, so i could have the event the last weekend of NDW instead of the first weekend which means, ideally, the 2nd weekend of May would be FDVIII to maximize the potential of helping get some out of town artists to the area. If FD were the third weekend, that would be 2 weeks between the Expo and FD which I think would not be as easy to swing for some out of town folks, but that's a guess on my part. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 6:04 AMI would suggest having Sat and Sun be the full days for classes. A lot more people can make those days. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 8:45 AMSo this adds an additional question; (Thursday thru Monday) vs (Wednesday thru Sunday)?
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Should we make Sunday a full day with Monday morning to load up and leave by mid day?
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Wednesday afternoon load in with Sunday morning workshops and leave by evening? -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 8:50 AMI personally prefer Wed through Sun (I like the idea of an extra day of fire and workshops), and I think a week or two later for the event would be wise so there is less chance of rain, though if there were to rain, I think we know how to prepare better for it now. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 10:34 AMDo another one again this fall like Wildfire does? :) -
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 11:41 AMNow that is a good idea, but could we find a place that would be as amazingly beautiful? I was in awe of all the beautiful redwoods and being so deep in the woods, not very common down here. Do you have a location in mind Nick? -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 12:21 PMNoel and I have been discussing this for 2 years and finding a more southern location is the only thing keeping it from happening this fall. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 12:24 PMI have a few friends there and been looking around Fraiser Park. That would be really nice. A similar foresty kind a vibe. Though it's difficult to find a place where fires aren't a major issue after the long dry summer months. -
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 1:17 PMoooh, yeah, fall, ummm, Another snag with FP might be hunting season. I threw a fall rave there a couple years back and had to contest with lots of hunters. Luckily we worked out a nice arrangement where the party scared all the deer in their direction. Still kinda scary seeing THAT many people in orange.... :)
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 11:36 AM"Do another one again this fall ..."
Oooh, that period between Halloween and Thanksgiving has always been a bit barren....
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 1:59 PMThe third weekend in May is always Tribal Fest. I would be uber-sad to miss out on that cause it's my favorite bellydance festival. And as Dyami pointed out, the second weekend in May is always Whole Earth Festival in Davis. I suppose of the two, I would rather skip WEF. There's my two cents... -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 3:33 PMOne question.
In case it happens in the same location, (what an amazing place btw), do one or 2 weekends later make a real difference on the weather? -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 6:42 PMGenerally, that weekend is the last rain before November. By moving a week back, we probably reduce our odds of rain by 50%, but that's just some random number I made up. By moving back two weeks (which seems a bit problematical), you'd be almost guaranteed not to have rain.
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, May 7, 2009 - 4:07 PM4 Days good, two days baaaaaaad.
Seriously though, an extra day would rock. As far as Wed vs. Mon, I figure there's as many folks that work on either of those days, but could be especially difficult for out-of-towners that are already taking days off the previous week for travel. I would keep it all in the same week, but that's just me. I'll be there either way :)
The idea of pushing it back a tad is appealing as well, a couple of degrees of warmth couldn't hurt. But again, I'm there either way...
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Thu, May 7, 2009 - 5:43 PMI'd vote for moving it further into may a week or so.
I also like the idea of wednesday through sunday very much.
It would have rocked to have a whole extra day of workshops.
And theres nothing wrong with twice a year ;] -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sat, May 9, 2009 - 2:13 AMFire Drums was held both in spring and fall of 2006. Very few people showed up for the fall one. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sun, May 10, 2009 - 12:01 PMYes, but FD sold out this year and there was still a large demand for tickets even after they were sold.
Wildfire is also very successful with both spring/summer and fall sessions. They sell out both very quickly. -
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Sun, May 10, 2009 - 9:19 PMI'm not saying that twice a year couldn't be successful if we tried it again. I would be seriously concerned about organizer burnout and key attendee dilution -- having something less often makes it more of a destination event for folks from out of the area. -
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Sun, May 10, 2009 - 9:35 PM^ My exact thoughts. Its so very special that it is a once a year thing. Discerning which one to go to, could be disastrous to the morale of the event. It pushes me to want to go to other events throughout the year like BJC etc. etc. then make it to FD. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sun, May 10, 2009 - 9:52 PMI say the more often we get to be with each other the better. I don't think twice a year will take away from the impact of the event. It is an amazing vibe with amazing people, no matter how often you see them (just my personal opinion). What if in the future we did a Fall event at Cutters, and the Spring one down in SoCal? That way we can ensure that weather isn't an issue.
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Tue, May 12, 2009 - 3:25 PMi have to agree with Waldemar. Part of what makes this rock is the scarcity aspect and the pent up energy we go out there with to "burn off." a fall event is so quickly after the burn there's a large change (IMO) that people will be less inspired to go. i also think two is challenging for the organizers in a way that is perhaps unnecessary. It feels more special to have it be a once a year thing -- at least for me. i also think it selling out and people wanting in is a good thing, not a bad thing. i think that keeps it more alive. demand will remain high as long as supply is limited and that, i think, brings the most dedicated people out to the fire pit to play. If people were less interested (lower demand because of higher supply) i bet fewer people would have stayed through the rain. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 3:28 PMlarge "change" should read "chance" ;) -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 4:01 PMWell then lets not do it right after the burn... how about in October or November? That way its a bit cooler, much nicer to camp in Southern California round then...
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sun, May 10, 2009 - 10:15 PMya know this twice a year thing could work out (i'm for it!) and in regards to location, i work at breitenbush hot springs and a couple of us have been talking about trying to do a FD type event up there. i need to talk to the event coordinator(who LOVES fire spinning) and the fire chief, but in regards to a beautiful location and amazing people, (you included of course!) it sounds like it would fit the bill quite nicely. lemme know what y'all think about such a thing. oh and it's in oregon, so not quite soCal. that last part is kinda fun to say aloud. -
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Mon, May 11, 2009 - 11:10 AM"What if in the future we did a Fall event at Cutters, and the Spring one down in SoCal? That way we can ensure that weather isn't an issue."
Brilliant. Seconded. We have all this warm desert down here, why not use it? I'd also behappy about longer duration. Too many great teachers i missed due to time stubbornly staying linear. -
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Mon, May 11, 2009 - 6:50 PMHot Springs... yes! I'd be incredibly supportive of a fire gathering at breitenbush (jonny and i are talking of going there this summer).
The first fire drums at cutter was planned for the second weekend in may and i suggested against it due to WEF. It is the greenest festival that I have been to yet (have yet to attend sol fest) and would be sad as well to miss it. The following weekend is tribal fest as doozer mentioned. Whenever fire drums is I would choose to attend over most any other festival, however it was really charged to have the Flow Show, Fire Arts Expo and National Dance Week right before fire drums. It is a bit tricky. The fourth weekend is the Bobo links festival which i suppose I'm the least attached to in May, however we get into a drier season.
I also adore having fire drums over Beltane and lighting of the bonfires....
The idea of another day (or even a whole week) would be incredible. Chad and I discussed the idea of having a portion of fire drums for a few days that would only be advanced classes. That could be another way to stretch out the experience.
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Mon, May 11, 2009 - 7:44 PMIs Cutters also called Deep Creek? Holds about 500 people, campground, etc.?
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 4:28 PMThis is back tracking a bit.
But I think Thursday Through Monday would be better. At least for people that are 9 to 5 like me, who can get Friday off at best. It would be nice to have Sunday be a fully loaded day, rather than have the extra day in the middle of the week.
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 4:43 PMBut then you are also missing Monday as well. I usually have meetings on Monday's so not sure if that is similar for a lot of other people...just to put that out there -
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Tue, May 12, 2009 - 6:12 PMYeah but if Monday is just a pack up and leave day, like this year's Sunday then who cares if you miss it.
If Sunday was a full day you could stay later and get more action in. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 6:17 PMnot a bad argument for thurs-mon, as long as people cleaned up before they left.
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 4:53 PMIs there any resolution on this? Are the dates of the next FireDrums finalised? -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sat, October 10, 2009 - 6:36 AMMay 6th - 9th it seems.
Contract has been dealt with I think, but ask Noel, he did it....
Telling all my friends. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sat, October 10, 2009 - 4:51 PMI do like to play with toys a lot. Don't you? -
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Sat, October 10, 2009 - 6:36 PMI like delving into the technical base of art a lot, if thats what you mean. i like trying to accomplish things that i couldnt before.
Im not a play festival hippy, and nothing against them, but i dont care about the same things that they do.
And it seems as though we keep bumping into eachother on here. :-P
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Sat, October 10, 2009 - 9:11 PMHaha! I'm looking forward to meeting you at FireDrums 2010! :)
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Mon, October 12, 2009 - 2:38 PMI like twice a year!!! For locals, they can get together more and out of towners have 2 chances a year to see if they can come up with time and money at the same time. -
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 9:22 AMThe dates are May 6th-9th
Same time as Whole Earth Festival. Probably not changing the date at this point.
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Re: FDVIII 2010
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 6:43 PMI think WEF will be fine without all of us...
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